Babe In WombIn discussing abortion and infant death, we invariably come around to asking “What’s going on in the womb?” and “Do babies go to heaven?” While science cannot answer the second question, it can give us some information about the first. Science tells us when the brain is formed, when the heart starts beating, what the baby looks like, and a mother has her own set of experiences to corroborate this (baby’s movement, hiccups, etc).

However, the Bible also informs us of things going on in the womb – things we could not know without Special revelation:

We’re not told that the actions of these babies were limited to just these 4 people (David, his son, the Messiah and John the Baptist), and we see nothing in the rest of Scripture to say that these can’t be true for any other child of God. So I don’t think there’s harm in concluding that the same can be true for any other child of God. In fact, given these verses, I would say that it takes special effort to conclude that these are not true of other babies as well.

While we all appreciate nice things about babies, we want to also bear in mind that the Bible says ‘not so nice’ things about some babies. Many babies were the subject of divine judgment (Noah’s flood, Sodom & Gomorrah, Joshua’s conquest of Canaan), so I think we’d be rushing it a bit if we said that all babies have faith in God. So which babies do have faith in God? The Bible doesn’t say. I’m content to say that it applies at least to elect babies.

Are Babies Elect?

I emphasize ‘elect babies’, because the Bible has some very uncomfortable things to say about babies with regard to the natural man and wicked people. We can’t ignore these passages:

I can’t say that I find these passages to be cheery, but they’re in the Bible and they’re part of the discussion, so they have to be mentioned.

Ye Have Heard It Said…

There are a number of passages that are typically put forward as arguments for all infants being saved. I don’t find them compelling:

Babies In Heaven?

Q: How then does an infant get to heaven?
Seems to me that it’s the same as any adult: by grace through faith (Eph 2:8-9). And that faith comes through hearing, and hearing comes through the Word of God (Rom 10:13-17).

Q: How does an infant hear the Word of God?
My response is actually pretty simple: God can and will communicate through a variety of agents: Adults, children, donkeys, stones, angels and the Holy Spirit. Adults and children are (usually) limited so that they can only speak in their own language, but angels and the Holy Spirit are not. They can communicate in any language – even such that a donkey – and surely a baby – can understand. That sounds incredibly bizarre – but how else do we explain the fact that John the Baptist, while still in the womb, knew that Jesus was near? Someone communicated this information to him – an angel or the Holy Spirit (likely the latter). And that same One who told him that Jesus was near, surely has the ability to explain saving faith to this infant such that the infant can believe .. which is essentially what Psalms 22:9-10 says.

It’s an unconventional position to take, but I don’t see anything in the Bible that prevents it from being the case. In fact, I actually see a consistent basis for supporting it.

Thoughts?

5 Responses

  1. Inborn faith aligns with God’s sovereignty – there is no other biblically defendable explanation for womb-based salvation. The bible says that God elected His own before the foundation of the world, at His good pleasure. Said salvation is not based on hearing the gospel, it’s based on God’s sovereign election. God’s hands are never tied…though this creates head scratching curiosities for interpreting other passages of the bible. Hence, we study to show ourselves approved – it all comes together (and it must) for us to be thoroughly finished.

    The bible reinforces inborn or elected salvation through teaching that there’s not a single contribution we can make to our salvation that’s acceptable to God. The bible continually teaches that savation is by grace alone, through Christ alone, by faith (trust) alone. Works (e.g. words, actions, thoughts), simply anything the human creature could point to that would merit salvation (in their mind) are struck down repeatedly as null and void in God’s view. God chose us, we didn’t choose God (not of our own choosing – nowhere in the bible is the concept that we naturally seek God). The biblical “womb” examples are but a few of the many grace-based illustrations that support said beliefs.

    The question that pops up (though I don’t know if there’s a good answer) is when do His elect become aware that they are saved? Some receive said insight in the womb (so says the bible), others at a very young, others perhaps in the last moments of their lives. This is not an easy one to clearly undestand.

  2. Thanks, TPeters.

    Don’t forget that the response of faith/belief is a condition/requirement for salvation:

    [+]Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” (Acts 16:30-31)

    [+]Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. (Rom 10:9-10)

    If we abide till the end, we will be saved. If we wither and do not abide, we will be cut off and thrown to the fire (Jn 15), a sign that we were never true believers to begin with (1 Jn 2:19)

  3. After reading your response, I’m inclined not to agree with the aspects you mentioned as conditions for salvation. As evidences for salvation, yes, but as conditions for salvation? No.
    Here’s what I see in the bible regarding our salvation and justification – the trinity plays three roles. 1) God the father purposed the salvation for his elect, at his good pleasure. #1 is an act of grace. 2) Jesus the son secured the salvation of God’s chosen by fully atoning for their sins on the cross with his blood and in doing so fully appeased God’s wrath. 3) The Holy Spirit regenerates the “dead” sinner and not in response to any contribution of “works” or aspect of merit (e.g. words, thoughts, feelings, the sinner’s prayer…anything the individual could point to as “their part” and in doing so create grounds for boasting). By possessing the Holy Spirit, and only by possessing the Holy Spirit is trust or “faith” in Christ enabled. To that point, the source of saving faith in the bible is ALWAYS the result of supernaturally provided faith (it is not inherent to the human creature, at least based on how I interpret the bible).
    The bible says the timing of #1 happened before the foundation of the world. #2 happened at the cross. The timing of #3 is only known by God the father and the Holy Spirit.
    Where I’m heading with all of this – I’m fairly confident that you and I agree on all of the points #1 and #2 above. Where we may not agree appears to be the timing of regeneration. Simply, we don’t know when the Holy Spirit regenerates God the father’s chosen. Obviously this must happen in advance of us demonstrating regeneration by submitting to God’s directives and repenting of our sins, but as to when regeneration actually occurs for anyone, I can’t say. Regeneration proceeds and must proceed any “I’m saved” actions shown by God’s chosen. Until that point we’re dead in our sins and incapable of seeking God (nowhere in the bible is the concept, let alone the teaching that we naturally seek God).
    In Luke 1:44, it appears to me that the baby who jumped for joy in the womb was already regenerated. How else would he (i.e. his spirit) have rejoiced in the womb? Another example of spiritual regeneration proceeding human action was the resurrection of Lazarus. Lazarus was dead, as in “stinking” dead. When Jesus commanded him to come forth, Lazarus was made alive again first, then, came out as commanded. To be clear, Lazarus was not offered the gift of regeneration. Lazarus was simply regenerated as an aspect of God’s grace and Lazarus “will” had nothing to do with it.
    My point – we don’t know the timing of God’s spiritual regeneration in any of us, but we do know that “it” (regeneration that leads to our glorification) happens every time without fail, at the appointed time, for God the father’s chosen. Consequently, I absolutely believe that infants, including unborn infants, can be regenerated prior to leaving their mother’s womb. For most others, it’s probably later in life (only God knows, and that is the point…from my standpoint).

  4. In your estimation, is it possible for a person to be regenerated but not believe for some time? For example, do you believe JTBaptist was regenerated in the womb (which I believe was the case), but that he didn’t come to have saving faith / personal belief until some time much later (~12 years old or whatever)?

    I believe the two events are either simultaneous or near-simultaneous: the instant a person is born again, he starts believing. John ch 3 doesn’t give a time reference from the time a person is born again (v8) and the time a person starts believing (v15).

    I also believe the inverse is true: I believe that the instant a person gets a sin nature, he starts sinning (by not loving the Lord his God with all his heart, soul, mind and strength). Even in the womb.

  5. This is a challenging subject to reconcile, at least for me. On one hand I believe in total inability (total depravity), the bible speaks so clearly on this topic. On the other hand, because God’s own are saved by grace and were chosen before the foundation of the world, I also believe that God’s elect can have their lives extinguished as infants and even in the womb. God’s purpose in salvation cannot be thwarted by human inability or earthly calamities. That’s not to say that all infants, either born or unborn, are “saved” or were intended to be saved. Ditto for the many adults who’ve repeated “the sinners prayer”, including those who’ve done miracles in Jesus name and claimed to believe – the sermon on the mount in the book of Matthew makes that quite clear. My point is that salvation is God’s doing, all of it, and his purpose in salvation cannot be thwarted.

    Speaking personally, I was well into my adult years before I realized that I was saved by an act of grace. I have no doubts that the holy spirit was in within me before I realized that I was saved by grace. It was just later in life that I morphed from “milk” to “meat” regarding the word of God. My belief (trust) had nothing to do with me – it had everything to do with God.

    As for sinning, or, being a “sinner”, no one of can reach the goal of not ever sinning in this lifetime, even after regeneration. What we can do is thank God for Jesus’ atoning work on the cross that made us sinless in the eyes of God the father. Unredeemed sinners are the ones bound for hell. Redeemed sinners, God’s elect, those for whom Jesus died, are justified in spite of their (our) sins – now and later…not that any of us are happy that we still do things wrong in God’s eyes.

    So, coming full circle, yes, I do believe that the events of being regenerated and believing can happen at different times. The former MUST happen for salvation. The latter (consciously believing) WILL happen unless that person’s life gets snuffed out before said event. Again, I’m still working my way through all of this…as I keep reading God’s word and realizing how little I truly understand and know 🙂

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